WISCONSIN MARRIAGE DEFENDERS

The chronicles of the Wisconsin Marriage Defenders of Oshkosh, Wisconsin.

Thursday, March 02, 2006

KAHL & STEW DOUBLE-TEAM

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The last time "gay man" Michael Kahl sent a letter to the Oshkosh Northwestern, the editor, Stew Rieckman, gave him the last word and then nixed the topic (see 1-12 entry).

Somehow the moratorium was lifted and Kahl got another pro-queer letter printed the very next month (see 2-23 entry).

Since writers are only allowed one letter per month, this amounted to giving Kahl two free shots in a row, while censoring all opposition.

Now that the ban has been lifted, my letter is certain to get printed, since Rieckman insists he is fair and unbiased (wink, wink).

I really wanted to write a letter about Dean Zimmerman's "Clergy Letter" mixing evolution and religion (on a gov't website!), but the sodomy matter is more pressing in Wisconsin right now. I didn't expect Kahl to be allowed a letter like this so soon.

Here is my submission:

I never thought the day would come when I'd see a letter by Michael Kahl that I agreed with (2-23-06).

I agree that it's "inappropriate" to have political protests on any issue at funerals (though I disagree that the Fred Phelps group is representative of those opposed to homosexual unions). I also largely agree with his comments that "hate is hate", and that often "hate doesn't come any less tolerable", depending on who is spewing it (although I do believe it is right to hate things that are evil or wrong).

The problem is, in his previous letter (1-12-06), self-professed "gay man" and "Queer on the Water" Kahl proclaimed publicly that he would not "in any way, shape or form would ever condone incest, pedophilia or bestiality".

Why should one alternate sexual orientation (homosexuality) be exempt from intolerance, but the others aren't? Why is it okay for Kahl to be intolerant and hateful if two homosexual men happen to be brothers - and consenting adults? Why does he want laws to protect his sexual preference but not that of pedophiles?

He also referred to "sex between a father and daughter, a man and a boy, a woman and a dog" as "perverted". By what standard does Kahl determine that those are perverted, but men having anal or oral sex with other men is not perverted?

Kahl's tolerance for his own sexual deviation, but intolerance for other "perverted" behaviors highlights the hypocrisy of those trying to justify same-sex marriage. The Bible says that all sexual relations outside of a marriage of one man to one woman is sin. Without God's word, we have no set standard for right and wrong.

2-23-06 http://www.thenorthwestern.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060223/OSH06/602230376/1191/OSHopinion

1-12-06 http://www.thenorthwestern.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060112/OSH06/601120365/1191/OSHopinion

I was about to send this to Stew, when I got a call from the Northworstern (only a few minutes after emailing the letter). That usually means they are going to print the letter. So I will cut them some slack and give them some credit. At least he is printing letters from conservatives again. Maybe only one to every five from the opposition, but all truth needs is exposure, and the five falsities fall to defeat.

1-12-06 "Editor's note: This will be the last letter on the gay marriage/civil union referendum for this go around."

It didn't take long to let Michael Kahl violate this edict - his very next letter (2-23-06) dealt with the subject.

Since writers are only allowed one letter per month, this amounted to giving Kahl two free shots in a row, while censoring all opposition.

Now that the ban has been lifted, my letter is certain to get printed, since you insist you are fair and unbiased.

Things like giving the pro-homosexual side the first and last word of each "go around" (that you arbitrarily divide), and a five-to-one ratio of replies in between, certainly give the appearance that you are indeed biased and your bias affects your editing. I wish you would at least do a better job of pretending to be fair if you are going to claim that attribute.

In case you want to claim that Kahl's letter was not dealing with the "gay marriage/civil union referendum", here are a few lines from his letter that prove it is:

{{ then this same body of legislators introduces a bill to ban civil unions and same sex marriage. Hate is hate. }}

{{ The hate ... is just as inappropriate as the introduction of hateful legislation like the constitutional amendment to ban civil unions and gay marriage. }}

{{The hate doesn't come any less tolerable just because it's preached by the legislature while wearing suits instead of ... }}

{{ whom the legislators rallied against }}

{{ next November when they support the discriminatory amendment to our constitution. }}

16 Comments:

  • At 10:05 AM, Anonymous Billy said…

    Using the same logic, what is your feelings towards a 50yo wedding a 14yo?

    Is that something that the bible would allow for?

     
  • At 6:15 AM, Blogger T.G. said…

    The age of majority in America is 18, not 14. An 18 year old is an adult and can marry who they will. If Anna Nicole Smith wanted to marry some 85 year old rich guy, and he wanted to marry her, that's their business.

     
  • At 2:02 PM, Anonymous Billy said…

    I didn't ask about a technical legal interpretation. I asked for feelings on the matter and if the bible allows for it.

     
  • At 12:35 AM, Blogger T.G. said…

    My feelings are immaterial.

    The Bible would permit it, but that is not necesarily a recommendation or a good option.

    In the early generations, people probably often married someone from a generation apart because there were not that many people yet.

    Abraham was 9-10 years older than Sarah in the Bible. That's a reasonable difference. If men are to be the leaders of the family, it makes sense they be somewhat more mature.

    The Muslim prophet Muhammad consummated a marriage with one of his wives when she was about ten and he was about 60. Not only is that extreme, but it's pedophilia.

    So if you're going to attack an age disparagement, be careful. Muslims kill people who offend them :-)

     
  • At 5:56 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

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  • At 7:50 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Have you ever been to a professional therapist to discuss your un-natural obsession with homosexuals? Maybe you and Fred Phepls could go together and find the freedom from this addiction that you both so apparently desire.

     
  • At 9:39 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    —Deut 23:12-13

    "You shall also have a place outside the camp and go out there, and you shall have a spade among your tools, and it shall be that when you sit down outside, you shall dig with it and shall turn to cover up your excrement."

    Dig a hole, Teno; a BIG hole. You need it for all the hate-filled excrement you've been spewing that you call Christian love.

    As others have suggested, it's likely that you're gay and suffering from internalized oppression. Find a nice man from that "church" of yours (maybe Jared) and start worrying about all the things that are going on in the world because of hate-genocide, homelessness, poverty, slavery-and quit obsessing with people who love each other and who treat others with respect. Just like Jesus commanded us to do. Remember Him?

     
  • At 5:55 PM, Blogger Jared said…

    Teno, I just want to tell you "No". I'm married. (You know, the way God ordained marriage of one man and one woman.)

    However, "Mr. Bravery" known to us as "Anonymous" must have some wierd dream of us two being together. I ask that "Anonymous" can just deal with the fact that we have a strong and healthy fear of God.

    It didn't take too long for us to be compared to the idiot Phelps. BTW, why is it that we condemn a man like Phelps, but the other side has a hard time condemning any perversion?

     
  • At 7:23 PM, Blogger T.G. said…

    Jared has been involved in many of the same anti-sodomite endeavors as I have been. In fact he was called a "homophobe" in print, by the editor of the Oshkosh Northworstern, Stew Rieckman, because of his harsh letters to the editor on this very topic. So how come you call Jared a "nice man" but say I'm guilty of spewing "hate-filled excrement, oppression, and disrespect"?

    Not only are you an anonymous coward, you are a cowardly HYPOCRITE.

    BTW, homophobe implies a fear of homos. Jared is 6'5", he's not scared of no sissy.

     
  • At 7:32 PM, Blogger T.G. said…

    << people who love each other and who treat others with respect. >>

    Spreading KILLER diseases like wildfire is treating someone they LOVE with RESPECT?

    Few homosexuals live past age 40 because of their degenerate and unnatural death-style. That's what you call respect?

    Homosexuals commit suicide at alarmingly high rates. We want to get them OUT of that death-style.
    THAT'S love and respect.

    Condoning their deadly sin is the most HATEFUL thing you could ever do to a homosexual. If you want to show them love and respect, you'll try to get them out of their perverted death-style and into the eternal life offered by the Lord Jesus Christ.

     
  • At 6:16 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Uhmmm...it's still sarcasm and, I think, pretty funny even though the subjects of the sarcasm are too ignorant to understand it.

    Perhaps you two were home-schooled and didn't learn about things like science and/or biology or sexuality or how to understand research that doesn't come from Phelps or Dobson.

    BTW, I'm not afraid of God. He made me as I am, blessed me with a wonderful life partner and great friends, many of whom are Christian. Too bad your marriage couldn't have been as blessed, Teno, but I certainly can see why she left. Maybe you'll have better luck with men.

     
  • At 3:03 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Just so you know- there are pictures of sissy boy Jared floating out there, kissing and sitting on other mens laps. So at least he must be tolerant, and probably married a transexual. At least that still fits the defination of marriage, one man, one woman.

     
  • At 3:25 PM, Blogger T.G. said…

    << Perhaps you two were home-schooled and didn't learn about things like science and/or biology or sexuality >>

    I got an A in my college biology course, 2nd high average in the class of 50. One thing I learned is that the anus is not designed to be violated by a penis - that's why sodomites have so many diseases. Waste (which is toxic) is supposed to come OUT of the anus - nothing is supposed to go into it. I also learned that sperm is not designed to be ejaculated into another man's in-situ feces, it's designed to fertilize female eggs. Ain't none where you're packing fudge.

    << BTW, I'm not afraid of God. >>

    You SHOULD be. The Bible says the ONLY thing we are to fear is God. Someday you WILL fear Him. Fear Him now before it's eternally too late.

    << He made me as I am, >>

    No He didn't. Man chooses to sin.

    << blessed me with a wonderful life partner >>

    The risk of killer diseases is hardly a blessing.

    << Too bad your marriage couldn't have been as blessed, Teno, >>

    Ah, so the sissy (as in coward) knows me, but is afraid to identify itself. You're living up to the queer stereotype sissy boy.

     
  • At 7:55 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    "it's designed to fertilize female eggs."
    That's probably why Deb left you; you couldn't enjoy sex in any way other than the missionary position in order to procreate and you certainly wouldn't have thought of pleasing her as she's just a woman.
    I'm sure you must be getting tons of hits on your Yahoo personals ad; you're such a catch!

     
  • At 10:51 PM, Blogger T.G. said…

    << That's probably why Deb left you; you couldn't enjoy sex in any way other than the missionary position in order to procreate and you certainly wouldn't have thought of pleasing her as she's just a woman. >>

    You think personal attacks from an ignoramus are going to bother me?

    Debi will admit that she was thoroughly satisfied sexually. If you visit me at church, and identify yourself instead of remaining a sissy, I can give you her number so you can call and ask her yourself.

    << you're such a catch! >>

    You think so? Are you hitting on me? Trying to make Jared jealous?

     
  • At 11:44 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    oooh!!!!

     

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