The chronicles of the Wisconsin Marriage Defenders of Oshkosh, Wisconsin.

Wednesday, May 10, 2006



The Oshkosh Northworstern finally relented and printed one out of three recent submissions. Here is the excellent synopsis by Dick Ives that they printed:


Editorial page opinions distort truth about gays

Readers of the Oshkosh Northwestern are inundated with pro-homosexual editorials and letters to the editor (Leonard Pitts, March 3; Ellen Goodman, March 30; Aaron Sherer, April 9; letters from the Action Wisconsin group too numerous to mention.) It would be extremely refreshing if this newspaper really did seek and report the truth. The above writings provide nothing but a gratification for the hateful, immoral and perverse elements of our society.

This brings us to Sherer's editorial, which is filled with the usual straw man arguments, twisted definitions, half-truths and innuendo. Let's get to the point(s).

It has never been "the economy, stupid!" It has always been traditional morality. Moral stability is worth infinitely more than economic growth due to the promotion of perverseness.

The acceptance and promotion of perversion is not progressive - it is regressive. Immorality should never be protected. Hence, our good laws against pedophilia, incest, bestiality, prostitution, sodomy ... ad nauseam.

All Wisconsin citizens already enjoy equal rights and full protection under the law. No further legislation is necessary, but that which protects that which is right, decent, moral and healthy.

A family is not, nor ever can be, two (or more) fornicators living together. A legitimate family is a lawfully wedded man and woman, and any children with which they may be blessed.

All sexual perversion must be discouraged, not legislatively encouraged by fascistic, warped lawmakers.

People of Wisconsin, ignore the insidious lies, sugar-coated distortions and diabolical deceptions of Fair Wisconsin which will bring the good citizens of this state into the bondage of moral decadence and corruption. The price is far too great to pay.

Richard Ives Oshkosh

And here is mine which hasn't yet even received a confirming phone call, which means it's been rejected:

Recently, the Northwestern printed another puff-piece promoting the perverted and dangerous death-style of a local sodomite (Aaron Sherer this time - again). That makes about a half-dozen feature articles on homosexuals and their partners in addition to the letters to the editor and editorial columns promoting homosexual marriage. It appears the Northwestern is campaigning in favor of the sodomite agenda.

The truth is, the Northwestern, and its Executive Editor, know full well how vile the homosexual lifestyle is. Al Doyle submitted a letter explaining some of the activities which homosexuals regularly indulge in. He used clean, clinical terms to describe their behavior, and used pro-homosexual sources for the information. Yet even that was so revolting that the Editor refused to print it because he thought it was unsuitable for family reading (perhaps justifiably so). Homosexual activity is nasty, dangerous, and disease riddled.

If the Editor knows homosexual behavior is so perverse, why does the Northwestern continue to shill for the sodomites? If the Editor doesn't believe homosexual activity is abominable, why did he refuse to print Doyle's letter?

The Northwestern is either purposely hiding the truth about homosexuality, or is admitting the truth is too disgusting to print in a family paper. Either way, the Northwestern has no business promoting such an abhorrent perversion.

Teno Groppi, Oshkosh


  • At 6:13 PM, Anonymous Little Timmy said…

    Well, why don't you both give yourselves a big self-congratulatory pat on the back!

  • At 6:22 PM, Blogger T.G. said…

    Sure Little Timmy.

    BTW, Little Timmy, are you the Milwaukee Congressperson I met at the hearing?

  • At 7:36 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    I can't tell whether you think these people are human beings or not. You seem to be trying to get them to find the savior and yet you're dring them away. You scare people, myself included. Scare tactics don't work. Do you really want these people to be afraid of god? You are an ambassador of Christ, and if you do not accuratly represent Him and His will then people get a distorted view of him. Based on your actions, I would be led to believe that god is judging, harsh and cold. That he doesn't care about me and only wants to punish me for something I cannot control. This is pure speculation, but have many worn the spectacles and shoes of these people to see in the glass of their life? One must love, as god does, and accept, yet make it known that you do not believe it's ok, but never to harm them or turn them away from Him. All things are possible in Christ, not us.
    Lead them to God as an ambassador and he will do the rest.
    Your method, I am afraid will not work. I feared god for too long because of people like you.

  • At 4:32 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    WOW! The Defenders of Marriage are really going to town. Let's count how many there are....Teno, Dickie, Al, Jared...that makes 4 members of the Baptist Taliban! Hope y'all are reporting the money you're spending on the amendment fight--so far, you're not listed as a group and I'd hate to see you get in trouble for not reporting your expenses. Ok, I lied; I'd love to see that happen. Especially since one of you works at the post office and better not be helping to send out Ovadal's crap. That would be a federal offense, wouldn't it?

  • At 10:27 PM, Blogger T.G. said…

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  • At 10:31 PM, Blogger T.G. said…

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  • At 10:32 PM, Blogger T.G. said…

    A federal offense to deliver mail? Since when? Reporting how we spend our money? Do you account for every penney you spend? This is America, we're still somewhat free.

    BTW, we have had over 100 individuals involved in various activities.

    We are supposed to fear God. He is a God of judgment as well as a God of love. he does not just "love and accept", He requires repentance.

    And my way is working on some. "Some with compassion, some by fire". Different people are reached by different methods. There are plenty of the sappy, gooey, lovey-dovey types out there.

  • At 11:22 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…




  • At 12:24 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Actually...yes, we do account for every penny that's being spent on this amendment...because that's state law. The question is on the NOvemember ballot and, therefore, subject to election finance laws. It seems Ovadal has been mailing campaign literature on how to vote on the question; those funds have to be reported. But I'm sure, being the god-fearing men you are, you wouldn't worry about the pesky little rules that other Americans seem to be able to follow.
    You seem to object to being lumped into the Phelps Klan, but not having any sort of sense of patriotic repsonsibility puts you squarely in his camp.

  • At 9:24 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Did it ever occur to you ( I don't think so, since your sole focus in life is on your unfullfilled love for men) that heterosexual sex can be equally as nasty, dangerous and disease riddled? STD's, prostitution,unprotected sex are not just for gay people. Since there are fewer gay people in the world logic would lead us to believe that the straight world is far more "sick". Clean up your own "people" and then worry about others. If you were a god loving person as you claim you would focus more on our simularities than our few differences and help to make this a peacefull world instead of one filled with hate.

  • At 2:08 AM, Blogger T.G. said…

    Heterosexual sex as allowed in the Bible, between husband and wife, leaves no room for prostitution, fornication, adultery, STD's, etc. It's only when people step outside the directives of scripture that they risk those things.

    However, homosexual activity is far more dangerous. That's why the average life-span of sodomites is but 40 years.

    God is loving and that's why He wants you to know the truth so He can save your life and soul.

    If we were filled with hate, we'd just shut up and let you kill yourselves. But we want to see you rescued from your deadly perversion.

  • At 11:35 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    well the way you speak leads me to think that you hate and very much so at that.

    don't forget the plank in your own eye that will make your lifespan but those same 40 years.

  • At 1:40 PM, Blogger AngelAiken AKA Thee U.M.O.G said…

    where's your sense of humility? as an ambassador of christ one must be humble and approachable to win souls to him. you may have the truth, but if you are not humble, they will not listen.

  • At 4:10 PM, Blogger T.G. said…

    You don't even know me. How could you know how humble I might be? You can't. You're making a false charge against me as a person because you have no substance for any argument dealing with the subject.

  • At 11:55 AM, Blogger AngelAiken AKA Thee U.M.O.G said…

    if you are humble, than you are a servant. anger is but contained and not in rhetoric. I don't see it, and you don't know me either.
    my judgdment is pass

  • At 12:24 PM, Blogger T.G. said…

    I am a servant.

    Why would it be wrong for me to be angry with sin, but it's okay for you to be angry with me? Don't tell me you're not, it's obvious from your comments.

    Also, there's nothing necessarily wrong with being angry if it's righteous anger:

    Ephesians 4:26 Be ye angry, and sin not:

    Psalms 7:11 ... God is angry with the wicked every day.

    And once again, you're only making personal attacks rather than dealing with the issue. Even if every personal attack you make against me is true, that doesn't change the issue. Homosexuality is wrong. Wisconsin should not give homosexuality legal standing.

  • At 12:41 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Again, why is the Wisconsin Marriage Defenders, Ralph Ovadal group, and others not listed with the WI Elections Board? When God whispers in your ear, does he tell you it's ok to break the law?

  • At 2:14 PM, Blogger T.G. said…

    Oh please. A group of guys can't express their opinion on an issue without checking in with "Big Brother"?

    I'm sure every anonymous sodomite who posts a message on this blog is listed with the WI Elections Board? (rolls eyes) Do you report to the WI Elections Board every time you write a letter to the editor, post a message on an internet forum, have a meeting, or pass out literature?

    No wonder Ovadal calls you Homo-Fascists. You don't want a free America, you want totalitarian despotism.

    BTW, this is yet ANOTHER smokescreen at making PERSONAL attack rather than making ANY meagher attempt to defend sodomite behavior.

    You are doing a better job than I am at showing that homosexual sodomy is indefensible and should not be recognized legally by Wisconsin. Thank you.

  • At 9:58 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    maybe we do and you are too busy with your own head in the sand promoting your own agenda to notice.


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